Events/Discussion on day of Seminar: Gallery event/talk live from Second Life
Invited Speakers:
Haydn Shaughnessy-Owner of Ten Cubed Gallery, Second Life
Nathaniel Stern-Installation and video artist
Philip Pocock-Internet and media artist
Linus Schultz
Haydn Shaughnessy-Owner of Ten Cubed Gallery, Second Life
Nathaniel Stern-Installation and video artist
Philip Pocock-Internet and media artist
Linus Schultz
Group 4: Seminar topic: The virtual experience. The idea of virtual art galleries in Second Life, whether this virtual experience is a valid art experience. Can a virtual experience affect in the same way a physical experience can? Are all imaginative elements in art 'virtual' and 'immersive' or is there a different kind going on in virtual worlds?
12 comments:
I.propose.contacting.John.Gerrard,an.Irish.
artist.
using.digital.media.in.his.art.He.may.be.
interested.in.taking.part.in.a.talk,either.
virtually.or.at.the.event.I.will.begin.
writing.a.proposal.and.show.you.guys.
Wednesday.evening.
and.we.can.sort.it.out
(as.you.can.see.the.space.bar.on.my.keyboard.
is.still.broken.........!)
Here.is.the.link.to.his.website
http://www.johngerrard.net
grainne
I propose thate we contact Samantha Kotey, she held workshops on secondlife as part of darklight festival in 2007.
http://www.darklight.ie/pages/DarklightFestivalsamkotey.htm
details on samantha kotey
Samantha Kotey is an accomplished multimedia designer, specialising in & 3D design for Virtual Worlds. As Art Director of Virtual Worlds Media http://www.virtualworldsmedia.com/, she is focused on designing and building virtual experiences.
She graduated from Dun Laoghaire Institute of Art design And Technology, with a BA (Hons) in Interactive Media. Since then her involvement in various digital media projects has led to a passionate interest in Virtual environments.
Her work reflects the use of digital media technologies to build online social networking communities. Virtual Worlds Media is currently developing a Virtual Worlds Network, an online community for developers to collaborate on virtual projects.
The following are the discussions our group have had up to from 10 to 16 Jan now about the seminar via email
Message from John 16/01/08
Maybe we should add something on the psychological dangers of living in a
virtual, hermetically sealed, isolating, individualistic world? There is some
good stuff out there on this and maybe it's worth throwing into the pot, just
to get some sort of opposing view?
John
Message from James 15/01/08
Hi
I think Joe, Jacinta and Lorraine’s suggestions fit the bill and maybe Denise’s Irish Cork based artist should be incorporated also.
James
Message from James 15/01/08
>Hi Jacinta
Thats a good idea, and a discussion is more’ fruitful’ and all can participate.
James
Message from Denise 15/01/08
Have just found a very interesting gallery based in Kinsale. It is run by a person named Haydn Shaughnessy, who writes for the Irish Times and other newspapers and magazines.
He along with another guy have created this gallery in Cork, but also have a second gallery in Second Life called 'Ten Cubed'.
Check out the site to have a look at some of the artists. There's also a good essay on one of the artists, Scott Kildall, by gallery owner Haydn. The site address is:
http://galleryica.com/index.asp
Maybe he would be interested/available to partake in our seminar.
Denise
Message from Lorraine 15/01/08
think maybe the 4d room. We can always do the work on the mac's - save them onto cd or memory stick and then set them up on the equipment in the 4d room. We'd better find out how the web chat stuff could work there.
Lorraine
Message from Joe 15/01/08
Hi
That sounds great.
We will be using a lot of technology so we need to get a suitable room/venue. Orla mentioned the mac room or perhaps the video (4D) room. I am on the space committee so I can put forward our requirement. sooner the better
Joe
Message from Orla 15/01/08
Hi+everyone,
as+you+can+see+my+keyboard+is+still+broken,I+am+just+after+noticing+that+the+link+I+thought+got+sent+failed+to+deliver+so+
apologies+for+that,here+it+is+again
http://www.johngerrard.net/biography.htm
He,s+an+Irish+artist+using+digital+media,I+was+at+an+exhibition+of+his+a+few+years+ago+in+the+Gallery+of+Photography+he+was+making+computer+generated+heads+that+responded+to+the+
viewers+facial+gestures-very+interesting.
Lorraine,I+was+thinking+that+we+could+use+the+mac+room+sinead+has+booked+create+characters+that+the+audience+can+navigate+around+Second+Life.There+will+be+a+good+few+macs+available+so+maybe+we+could+all+create+characters+for+the+seminar+so+loads+of+people+can+use+them+at+the+same+time,and+maybe+be+in+the+same+real+time+virtual+space+at+once!
It+would+be+a+good+idea+to+get+in+touch+with+john+gerrard,
and+maybe+have+a+live+virtual+discussion+about+space?his+new+work+actually+deals+w
Message from Jacinta 15/01/08
My thoughts are much the same with the addition
1. To get 2nd life artists to give us a tour of an art exhibition (I
think it's called live streaming)
Message from Lorraine 15/0108
> I think the topic of our seminar should be "The uses of art in technology".
> I would propose that we have four parts to the seminar:
>
> An introduction on how we see art merging in and out of real and second
> life
>
> 1. A running demonstration of "Second Life", with maybe three or four
> "sequences" on a loop.
>
> 2. A live version of Wii gaming running in tandem with the second life.
> (game to be selected).
>
> 3.. A Live talk with a virtual artist (person to be decided upon and
> contacted).
> If possible, a second speaker from the business side of software
> dealing with gaming graphics / animation
>
> 4.. An on-line chat with artist from "Second Life".
>
> Has anyone else put their ideas down on e-mail???
>
> Regards,
>
> Lorraine.
>
> From Jacinta 15/01/08
>
> N.B. We are using email to discuss the seminar, due to .some people in our
> group do not have access to the internet in their jobs, also please do not
> enter any subject in the subject line.
>
>
> Please take a look at this website, it contains a lot of relevant info we
> can use , including features, blogs, editorials, contact details. We can
> discuss it tonight
>
> http://slartmagazine.com/
Message from Jacinta 14/01/08>
Subject: Possible Idea for Seminar
We have to look for something that we will make a presentation on for the Seminar
What about setting up a live interactive discussion with actual avators who make art in 2nd life ? Maybe with could contact Richard MInsky, who is an artis and founder of the Centre for Book Art and who launched the first magazine dedicated to the Second Life Art - Slart and try to get him to participate
Bye,
Jacinta
Message from Jacinta 14/01/08Message from Jacinta 14/1/08
The (bob ross) games appears to have been cancelled.
The games, which are being developed specifically for Nintendo's Revolution console and DS handheld, will be focused on the art of painting, no doubt harnessing the precision accuracy of Nintendo's control methods. A PC version is also planned.
We're not kidding.
AGFRAG made the announcement yesterday, prompting concerns from skeptics of an early April Fool's joke. We contacted AGFRAG directly for clarification.
"The press release is not a joke, but the side effect of people thinking it is might help us get noticed," explained Joseph Hatcher, who heads up the company brining Bob Ross to Nintendo's systems.
AGFRAG is Hatcher's development group, consisting of students, independent developers and professionals in the game industry. "AGFRAG secured a worldwide exclusive licensing agreement with Bob Ross Inc. just before the Game Developers Conference took place," Hatcher revealed. "We are talking with various companies and plan to make an announcement near E3 regarding which platforms the game will be developed on first, and maybe a surprise."
Hatcher himself admits to being a big Ross fan, which is partly why he wants to make games based on his work. "I personally loved watching Bob Ross growing up and I enjoyed watching how easily he created his paintings. We want to translate that same feeling of watching the TV show into playing a Bob Ross game," he said. "Whether you are an eight-year-old child, or a 65-year-old grandma, we want anyone to be able to pick up the game to create and play to your heart's content."
When we think about videogames, the name Bob Ross does not spring to mind. But the DS and Revolution may be the best systems to bring the Joy of Painting to gamers. "The Nintendo DS and Nintendo Revolution are perfect platforms for what we have in mind!" Hatcher explained. "We like the way Nintendo carves their own path of innovation and creativity and we strive to do the same."
AGFRAG has not yet secured a publisher for the titles. More news on these projects will be forthcoming beginning this May at the Electronics Entertainment Expo 2006 in Los Angeles. Aspiring painters, we'll keep you posted.
Message from Lorraine 14/01/08
Hi all,
I found this gallery of drawings creating by people on the DS with a drawing program based on photoshop tablets.
http://colors.brombra.net/index.php
It's amazing what you can draw with these days!
Lorraine.
Message from Grainne
WII is a very good idea.
sorry in advance for all the questions, but was in't in last week was of sick.
Where has this game to be delivered from? how many days those it take to be delivered. As if we are going for this, we need to also give time to try and operate it. We could go ahead and purchase, but think it might be best to have some backup plan incase it gets lost in post !!!
I will have a look and see if we could get a painting game for another games console, Xbox, playstation, I have never played any of these game consoles before, who is going to be playing the games? where are we going to get the consoles from those anyone have one or know of anyone that has one? Is the plan just to have one console or mulitple people participating at the same time.
Message from Jacinta 12/01/08
Hi All
I went into shop called GAMESTOP, and asked whether they could suggested any
games with included Art, but I still think the game found by Lorraine is the
best so far
I checked on Amazon and it can be pre-ordered and it's release dated is 29th
Feb 2008
Paint By DS (Nintendo DS) (2008) (Nintendo DS)
Buy new: £24.99 £18.98
You save: £6.01 (24%)
Available for pre-order. This item will be released on 29 Feb 2008.
PAINT BY DS
Paint by DS is a digital colouring book which enables the player to recreate
masterpieces by renowned artists. . The player uses the DS stylus to mix oil
and water-based paints to create colours and consistencies and then paint
the artwork. Paint by DS consists of 15 colouring in challenges along with a
variety of fun mini games, such as puzzles based on the famous artwork
included in the game.
Features
Re-create famous works of art using your own artistic style
Artwork by Van Gogh, Cezanne, Katsushika Hokusai, P.J. Redoute and many
others
Mix oil and watercolour paints with the DS stylus or use coloured pencils
Your paintings are critiqued when finished
Paint with relaxing instrumental music in the background
Contains four recreational mini games to "take a break" from drawing
Unlock new paintings, papers, colours and other items by completing mini
games
The DS has hosted many novel new titles, but the release of Paint by DS
marks the console's very first painting simulator. Essentially an electronic
take on paint-by-numbers, the game will let you replicate 15 paintings by
mixing paint and using the stylus as a paintbrush, with finished
masterpieces put on display in a virtual gallery.
Paint by DS will feature paintings by Van Gogh, Cezanne, Pissarro, Hokusai,
Gould, Redoute, and Bozzolini. You start each project by choosing the tools
and materials you want to paint with. There are various types of canvases
and paper available, and you can paint with either oil- or water-based
materials. You can mix colours on a custom palette and save them to your
paint box to apply to the canvas as you need them. If all this sounds a bit
complicated, you can keep things simple by going monochrome with a pencil
sketch instead.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/186/941863_20070706_screen003.jpgPaint
by DS lets you re-create famous paintings in minute detail, mixing colours
and using the stylus as a paintbrush.
As Paint by DS is a painting sim, you can't undo your actions if you make a
mistake. However, there are realistic painting techniques that you can use
to help adapt your painting as you go along. For example, if the colour you
apply to the canvas is too strong you can add water to the area to thin the
paint out. This technique is also useful for re-creating a washed-out look
to areas of water or sky.
Given this level of accuracy it can take at least an hour to complete a
painting, and maybe even double that at first. However, the game does let
you save your work in progress so you can come back and apply details at a
later date. To this end, you can zoom in on the picture and use finer
brushes to give the painting a professional touch. The top screen of the DS
is used to display what the original painting looks like, but you can take
some artistic license and adapt or embellish as you see fit.
Once you've completed your painting to a satisfactory level, you can choose
to place your signature anywhere on the work and then enter it into the
virtual gallery. Like any artist, though, you're going to have to take
criticism, and the in-game expert will dish out an appraisal of your work in
terms of accuracy and colour.
In addition to the painting exercises, there are four minigames to give you
a break from all the aspiring artistry. These include a whack-a-mole-style
game and a maze where you must guide a pixel around without touching the
sides. There's also a colour-memory game, plus a take on block-puzzle games
featuring a picture of Hokusai's "The Great Wave."
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/198/941863_20070718_screen003.jpgHokusai's "The Great Wave" is the basis for the block puzzle game, just one
of the four bonus games on offer in Paint by DS.
Paint by DS looks like it will be incredibly simple in terms of design, but
painting enthusiasts may well find enjoyment and longevity within it. It's a
shame that there are no wireless features, as a multiplayer paint-off would
have been welcome, but the minigames should provide a pleasant distraction
from the intensity of the painting
Most of the games are for DS lite, which if I'm correct is just a hand held
games console. So it would not make much presentation imapact.
These following games are very light weight:
PAC DIX (for Nintendo DS)
Description: mischievous magician, known for playing pranks on poor
unsuspecting folks, created something known as "Ghost Ink," a fluid that
pretty much turns any drawing into evil and vicious ghost monsters. Any
ghost created with the ink ends up just as mischievous as the magician. Ink
ghosts have invaded books and paintings, causing trouble within those
realms, and now it's up to Pac-Man to wipe out the ghost problem by using
the "Ghost Pen," a device that allows him to enter the infested books and
paintings to clear out the bad guys. Pac-Pix is a game tailored specifically
for the Nintendo DS' system capabilities. By drawing Pac-Man characters in a
specific fashion (the mouth first, then the circle, all in one swoop), the
drawing will come to life and munch anything in his path. Players can
maneuver Pac-Man drawings in different directions by plotting pathways on
the screen for the scribble to follow.
Drawn to Life (For Nintendo DS) http://www.drawntolife.com.au/
Description: Drawn to Life takes players to the next level of interaction
and creativity on the Nintendo DS. Your exact drawings populate the game,
and no tedious animating or image manipulation is necessary. In other words,
your drawing comes to life!
Kirby: Drawn and Go (Nintendo)
Description: . For Kirby Canvas Curse, the pink sphere loses his arms and
legs and becomes a sort of parapalegic rolling dot that can be directed but
not controlled directly. Through use of the stylus, you can draw paths for
Kirby to follow, ultimately leading to an end of level goal or boss
encounter. The whole thing is like a platform game in some ways but
completely new and different in others. No matter how you pigeonhole it
though, it's clear this is one of the best games of 2005.
The Sims:
The Sims foreshadows a new kind of creative empowerment, where players can
be artists, and game environments can be 21st Century art studios. In The
Sims, players have the option to capture screenshots from the game,
introducing performance photography to computer games. Players can submit
their family sagas and teleport their families to other players, which are
also rated by most-viewed and most-downloaded categories. The photo essays
and personal objects posted by this vibrant community are inspiring new
directions for creating art in game worlds, and have the potential to
unleash a new generation of artists.
Bye,
Jacinta
Message from Jacinta 11/01/08
http://www.contempaesthetics.org/newvolume/pages/article.php?articleID=299
Are Video Games Art?
by Aaron Smuts
There are some elements of this paper which make interesting reading.
Message from Denise 11/01/08
Hi Lorraine
I've had a look at the Nintendo site and there are not that many interactive games apart from Syms and some sports. I found 2 games on the following site: http://nintendo.about.com/od/toptens/tp/bestflashgames.htm. Though, I think you play them on the Wii through the internet (how it works, I don't know). The names of the games are Double Wire and Interactive Buddy. They get very good reviews on the above site.
If the release date for the paint game is definitely Feb 15th, I don't think it would be too late.
I'll have another look later.
Denise
Message from Lorraine 10/01/08
Found this in a list of Wii games. What do you think - is the idea a runner? Would be and interesting social experiment if we could leave people to their own devices playing this, then record them in the act! Any ideas on how easy/difficult it would be to get hold of the equipment and games software necessary to run this?
PAINT BY DS
From The Developer: Ever fancied yourself as the new Van Gogh? Or how about Gould? Test your artistic skills and let your imagination and creativity shine through with Paint by DS! Swap your pencil and paintbrush for your DS stylus and re-create some of the art-world's most timeless classics like Hokusai's "The Waves" or Cezannes "Le Golfe de Marseille". Select your paintings from three different difficulty levels and you will be able to find the perfect level for your ability.
Latest Screenshots
24th Sep 2007
24th Sep 2007
24th Sep 2007
Would love to get some feedback!! Talk later.
Message from Orla 09/01/08
Hi+lorraine
incase+you,re+wondeing+the+space+bar+is+broken+on+my+computer+so+I+have+to+use+plus+signs!!!
I+think+the+Wii+idea+is+good,it+would+relate+to+second+life+and+is+a+new+idea-maybe+we+could+try+to+get+intouch+with+artists+incorporating+physical+interactivity+in+their+work?Might+just+google+that+now...
see+you+guys+later!
Message from Lorraine 09/01/08
> Hi Everyone,
>
> In addition to the original topic we were looking at
> "2nd Life", I
> propose that we should look into the possibility of
> incorporating Wii
> into our space. What does everyone else think?
> There must be some sort
> of program available which would suit our purposes,
> or could be adapted.
>
> Lorraine.
Message from Orla 10/01/08
http://www.johngerrard.net/biography.htm
Just to say I would be able to get my hands on 4 Wii machines if we wanted to organise some sort of group game.
Regarding Haydn Shaughnessy and his Ten Cubed gallery, I was trying to access it on Second Life and it said it wasn't operational yet but you could 'drop' in. Grainne said there is a way to do this but I haven't figured it out yet! I would say both the real gallery in Kinsale and the virtual one are relatively new as the date at the bottom of the website is 2008. I still think he is worth contacting.
Hi All,
We should do a rain check on Hardware E.G. myself, Grainne & Jacinta have Mac's, Jacinta has Nintendo/WII player, I have video Camera to film playing of WII game with 'Lights' attached to our wrists as suggested by Lorraine. What else do we need? James
The following is a link which may be relevant to our seminar topic. It can be viewed online.
http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/eventseducation/symposia/8896.htm
Disrupting Narratives
Friday 13 July 2007, 10.00–18.30
This international symposium brings together some of the world's leading media artists, theorists and researchers to explore real-time interaction in electronic media. Over the last few years network theories have started to shape our thinking about social and cultural issues. This event seeks out artistic strategies and art forms that engage with these ideas. Contributors include: Mark Amerika, Alexander R Galloway, Andrea Zapp, Kelli Dipple, Kate Rich, Paul Sermon and Kate Southworth.
In collaboration with iRes (Research in Interactive Art & Design) at University College Falmo
Hi,
Here is another link on the same website.
http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/eventseducation/talksdiscussions/5961.htm
Supernatural Presents ... Digital Art
Scott Eaton and Johnny Hardstaff
Monday 18 September 2006, 18.30–20.00
Scott Eaton is Creative Technical Director at Escape Studios in London. He studied traditional drawing, painting and sculpture in the academic tradition at the Florence Academy of Art. It was there that he began to integrate the lessons of the old masters with the techniques of modern computer graphics. Scott Eaton has kindly made available the images from his presentation on his website at http://www.scott-eaton.com/tate/index.htm.
Eaton is joined in conversation by Johnny Hardstaff, who initially worked in print graphics for fashion designers such as Paul Smith and Katherine Hamnett. Hardstaff’s first film and subsequent PlayStation commission got him signed to Ridley Scott Associates. His graphic design, image making and films have been exhibited extensively in film festivals such as Onedotzero, ResFest and Mirrorball.
In collaboration with Supernatural
Sponsored by Escape Studios and Autodesk
Discussions had via email in the last week:
22/01/08
Message from Lorraine
Hi Everyone,
I think we need to get this in order tonight and decide who to approach first. We can only use 3 people so we need to prioritise. So far we have:
1. Mary's business contact from Havoc
2. John Gerrard - virtual artist (Orla's idea) - preferable as a live talk
3. Richard Minsky (Second Life Art) - live streaming (Jacinta's idea)
4. Irish based Cork artist Haydn Shaughnessy - Ten Cubed Gallery (Denise's idea)
5. Psychologist on the effects of virtual worlds/gaming etc on the individual (John's idea).
To make it interesting I think to pick a combination of artist, business and brain! So we need to set out in what order we should contact the artists, then if we can't get a business contact, or psychologist, use other artists as backup.
We shouldn't forget that we also want to include demonstrations / interactivity in the seminar, and also need to decide how that will be organised. I think it may be a good idea to video any gaming etc that we set up in order capture the response of participants.
22/01/08
Message from Jacinta
The contact details for Richard Minsky is (SLArt Magazine
http://www.minsky.com/contact.htm
Bye,
Jacinta
22/01/08
Message from Grainne
The following person might be of interest in case can't get some of our speakers
John Mahon who owns the secondlife site for dublin
see article Virtual worlds part 3
http://ezine.thedigitalhub.com/ezine_June07/#feature
http://www.picksl.com/about.html
we should be able to contact him via this site
Message from Sinead
Hi,
I think you are all bringing up very relevant points and proposals and should consider (for wed night) that your discussion on the day of seminar could hover somewhere around the situation of the solipsistic individualising aspect of the internet and (or versus) the communal and interactive potentials....?
what exactly is inter-activity? what are the components that are interacting?...individual & machine?, individual & themselves?.. individual& another individual through the medium of machine? individual&individual&machine through the medium of communication? individual&virtual community etc etc....and where is the situation of artwork in all this?
talk about all wed eve, but come as group with some defined proposals
sinéad
21/01/08
Message from John
Sounds good.
Not to put a downer on the idea, which is good, I said I'd summarise an
interesting article on the dangers of too much internet, etc., so here goes.
The article appeared in the Spanish daily, El Pais, 31 December, 2007, title:
"Generation MP3": On Their Way To Isolation.
While the writer, Francisco Manetto, writes mostly about MP3 players, I think
what he says is partly applicable to Second Life.
The main points he makes are that these devices have an addictive potential. He
quotes a psychologist saying that they can lead to anxiety, loss of self-esteem
and an increase in feelings of fear especially in adolescents.
The psychologist says that a lot of things can be addictive (such as reading),
but perhaps it is true to say that the internet is more attractive and
superfically at least more fun than reading. The psychologist says that the
alarm bells should start ringing if the person spends more than two hours
listening to their MP3. I wonder if say the same could be true for Second
Life?????
Communing with the internet/listening to your MP3 encourages isolation.
Apparently some basketball players from the NBA are forbidden from using
their MP3 20 minutes before a game so that they remember they are playing in a
team, and not on their own...
In discos in the South of Spain it is becoming more and more popular for the
dancers to be listening to different music on their MP3s, so that the dancer can
tune into either their own music or one of a number of songs/tracks being
played by a number of djs. This means everyone is dancing away together, but to
different music. The idea has been copyrighted. One of the advantages is that
you can have a wild disco and not disturb the neighbours. On the other hand, you
can't dance with anyone but yourself...
The US psychologist, Jean Twenge has written a book called 'Generation Me',
meaning people who listen all day to MP3s, but could this name also be applied
to Second Life avatars?
Twenge also referes to the iGeneration or the iGen, and says the 'i' stands
for'individualism', suggesting that excessive solo engagement with the
internet, etc, can result in a nasty selfishness and individualism.
As I say, all this is fairly negative stuff, but perhaps people in the class
with kids will have noticed some of the effects of excessive dependence on the
internet, etc...
John
21/01/08
Message from Charles
Hi All
John is correct. There is considerable anxiety around use of the internet and the impact and addictive potential of second life. There are a lot of people in Ireland now active members of "second life communities".
I dont wish to add any negativity to our proposed theme, however we need to think about and maybe incorporate some of the social implications into our work.
Are people using the blog? If so could someone send me the address etc., and I'll attempt to engage with this technology again.
Charles
20/01/08
Message from Mary
> Hi all,
>
> I agree with Lorraine's suggestion that the topic for the seminar be "The
> uses of art in technology" and her proposal that it be in 4 parts.
>
> I have a contact for the software company, Havok, who I think would be
> willing to help, possibility in the area of the 'Live talk with a virtual
> artist' or a speaker from "the business side of software dealing with gaming
> graphics/animation".
>
> I should be able to get in contact with the chief executive, David O'Meara,
> who was in the paper recently because his company, Havok, was recognised by
> the US National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences for its work on
> computer games when he received a technical Emmy at the awards ceremony in
> Las Vegas.
>
> Computer science lecturers, Steve Collins and Hugh Reynolds had the vision to
> create a physics engine which could be used in a variety of applications from
> games to industrial modelling. At it's most basic, a physics engine adds
> realism to a virtual world such as a game by ensuring objects in that world
> interact according to the physical rules of the real world. For example, if
> a game player's character bumps into a chair, that chair will fall over.
>
> The combination of strong technology and management enabled Havok to sign up
> leading names such as Sony, Nintendo Microsoft, EA, Ubisoft and Pandemic
> Studios.
>
> In the past year alone, Havok's engine was used in bestselling games such as
> Halo 3, Assassin's Creed and Guitar Hero 111. Havok have also made headway
> in the film industry.
>
> Havok was sold to Intel last year for a reported $110 million. The company
> has a staff of 100 and is based in the Digital Hub in Dublin.
>
> When we decide exactly what we want to do and if we feel we would like to get
> in touch with the David O'Meara, I would be very happy to do so.
>
18/01/2008
Message from Denise
Ten Cubed Gallery
Hi all This is a photo of me in the Ten Cubed Gallery looking at Scott Kildall's painting 'Void' which is a take on Yves Klein's photograph 'Leap into the Void'. Price is 645 euro.
Visit depo park 1 (171, 127, 25)
Hi group 4. this is Meabh from group . i am managing the blog for our seminar events. The other groups have set up blogs devoted solely for their groups interest (so you can add images and links about specific interests in your case virtuality ect) I have linked these to our main blog. Could you guys consider doing the same?
Thanks
The following are the discussions our group have had up to from 22 to 23 Jan now about the seminar via email
Message from Roma 30/01/08
Re: Pocock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz-Xg80ihO0&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Pocock
http://youniverse.zkm.de/node/104
Message from Roma 30/01/08
check this link, re-Philip Pocock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz-Xg80ihO0&feature=related
Message from Orla 30/01/08
I will have the draft letter for John Gerrard emailed to you
for tonight, and will be in touch to see what's
happening.
Message from James 30/01/08
I have told a personal friend of Mike Wilson to mention to him that we will be in Email contact with him re the seminar, that way he may pay more attention to the email. So Orla if you are sending him information this may help.
Message from Denise 30/01/08
Draft Letter
Mr Haydn Shaughnessy
Gallery ICA
1 Shearwater
KINSALE
Co Cork
29th January 2008
Dear Haydn
We are final year students in the Institute of Art, Design & Technology, Dun Laoghaire. We are currently in the final stages of organising a seminar event entitled The Immersive-Aesthetic, as Spaces of Experience (full details attached). This seminar shall take the form of a number of events, performances and debates which will run on the campus throughout the day of Wednesday the 12th of March.
Throughout our research for the seminar over the last few months, your name emerged as a potential candidate to participate in our event. Your expertise in the area of virtual art would be a most welcome addition to our panel of theorists and practitioners. Your particular role with regard to the seminar would involve your participation through Second Life, perhaps a live tour of your virtual gallery Ten Cubed.
Our budget for the event allows us to offer our speakers fee of 195 euro to cover any expenses incurred.
It would be an honour if you could afford us your time to participate in our event. For further details do not hesitate to contact me by email at spacesofexperience@gmail.com or phone at 086-2354256. We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards
Yours sincerely
Denise Kevany
4th Yr VAP Student
Message from Grainne 30/01/08
I have contact details for one of the artist that will be exhibiting in Ten cubed gallery at the same time as the seminar http://nathanielstern.com/ Stern is currently doing a PHD in Trinity. We could get him to Teleport into the seminr so he could discuss his work while we are doing the gallery visit.
He had his email address and contact details on his website.
Department of Electr.nic and Electrical Engineering
Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
e: nathaniel DOT stern AT gmail DOT com
m: +353 87 913 9885
Also there is another Irish based female artist that we could see if is interested as well as would be more fun if we had a good few people online.
Message from Grainne 29/01/08
Hi all,
At last night Paint Workshop we discussed the following: seen that we have the seminar presentation next tuesday, I feel that we all need to be in the same place for a few hours, would it suit everyone to come in next Monday evening seen that we don't have workshops due to the full time week to prepare for presentation on Tuesday.
Also for all who hasn't logged into second life, could you please log in and create your avatar go to the Ten Cube gallery and send us a postcard this will be proof that you have made it in, as we really need everyone to understand the process. For anyone having difficulty within Second life we can go through all these issues on Monday evening.
Message from Sinead 29/01/08
Hi,
we didn’t hold the seminar class today due to lack of numbers (…thesis…I know…fair enough!… though I expect full attendance for next Tuesday’s presentation by group 4 and the follow-up full group planning meeting…all groups meet at 2pm room A116).
Due to this I am instead going to send you a range of important points in a series of e-mails over next few days. Please read them and follow up on what is required and please update your blogs with the most current info and relevant links etc.
Don’t forget to Bcc me on the e-mails you are sending, Bcc allows you to send to me without giving out my address in the e-mail info. The reason I am asking you to do this is so that there is a back up record of whatever you are agreeing with the participants in case of any future confusions (in relation to institutional matters such as around fee due etc.)
As you are organising your speakers/participants you will also need to put some work into developing a critical framework around your particular group event. To start this process it would be a good idea for you all to look at how different events promote themselves in the contemporary art environment. Identify some events that from your point of view look interesting and would be something you would like to attend. Look at the phrasing of their information and consider how they present what they are going to do, how they contextualise the event and what kind of message is coming across in terms of things like prospective audience, kind of art practices that it relates to, kind of ‘image’ they are projecting, what references can you detect/are embedded in the promotional/critical info…etc. A good place to start would be www.e-flux.com where you will get an international listings of various events. Go through some of their archive and choose one or two events that have some relevance to the type of situation you might be planning for your seminar group (some that are recent and have a similar approach to what you are aiming for might be; http://www.e-flux.com/shows/view/5013 , http://www.e-flux.com/shows/view/5054 or closer to home see www.artinthelifeworld.com . Read the blurb, follow the links and consider how these promotional infos manage to create a critical framework for what they are presenting. The try to devise something similar for your groups event.
Message from Sinead 29/01/08
The letter below is a very good template and you can amend as is required to customise it for each speaker, (ie. if you already know the person you can be a bit more informal etc.) …just one minor change suggested…the phrase “your name emerged as probable candidate to participate in our event. Your expertise in the area of (curatorship and installation etc.) would be a most welcome addition to our panel of theorists and practitioners…” might be better phrased as ‘your name emerged as potential candidate to participate in our event as your expertise in the area of (curatorship and installation etc.) has been a focal point of discussion in our research and would be a most welcome addition to our panel of theorists and practitioners’ (‘probable’ implies that they are likely to be there, ‘potential’ implies that you would like them to be there!...and it is good to let people know that the group has been specifically interested in their work.
All groups, if not already in action, should have contacted their proposed participants this week. I will be forwarding this eve an IADT logo template for inclusion on any e-mails.
Message from John Kenny 29/01/08
Dear Pablo,
We are final year students in Dun Laoghaire College of Art Design and Technology, we are currently in the final stages of organising a seminar event entitled The Immersive-Aesthetic, as Spaces of Experience (full details attached). This seminar shall take the form of a number of events, Performances and debates which will run on the campus throughout the day of Wednesday the 12th of March.
Throughout our research for the seminar over the last few months, your name emerged as probable candidate to participate in our event. Your expertise in the area of (curatorship and installation etc.) would be a most welcome addition to our panel of theorists and practitioners. Your particular role with regard to the seminar would involve your participation in the (discussion blah).
Our budget for the event allows us to offer our speakers fee of 195 euro to cover any expenses occurred, also as you a travelling from abroad we can provide an extra 60 euro toward any additional expense.
It would be an honour if you could afford us your time to participate in our event, for further details do not hesitate to contact me by email or phone,(00 353+ xxxxxx). We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards
The Immersive-Aesthetic, as Spaces of Critical Experience.
Date: Wednesday 12th March
Time: 2pm-9pm
Location: Dun Laoghaire Institute of art, Design and Technology,
Kill Avenue,
Dun Laoghaire,
Co. Dublin,
Ireland.
The Immersive-Aesthetic as Spaces of Experience, is the title of a seminar event organized by the final year students of Visual Art Practice in IADT. The objective of the event is to create a number of individual situations of interaction throughout the day which will allow us to expose and examine contemporary theories regarding, contextuality, aesthetics and the role of the art audience.
The objectives of the Seminar will manifest themselves through the participation and engagement of the audience with the eclectic range of art based performances, talks and events specifically devised to evoke discussion surrounding many key concerns in contemporary art practice.
Rather than consign theory and practice to their traditional polar opposites, this seminar event shall create a dynamic informal ambience, through which the two elements can merge to create a critically engaged and thought provoking environment.
Message from Lynda Devenney 29/01/08
Monday night both labs are free, the audio doesn't work in A024, so it's probably best to use A026.
Message from Sinead 29/01/08 Sinead Hogan
It should be no problem to use the fine art mac lab (A024) or the mac lab A026 on Monday evening, I will double check this with Lynda Devanny
Message : Info About Ten Cubed Gallery
About Ten Cubed
Jan 18th, 2008 by haydn
We’re gearing up for the launch of Ten Cubed on the 31st Jan and 1st Feb (depending on your time zone) and Bennet asked me to post a little about what we’re doing there and why. Ten Cubed is a new virtual gallery - why Ten Cubed? Because ultimately I would like it to be owned by a thousand people (Ten Cubed).About a year ago I decided to set up a real life gallery. The reason was simply that I love media art but couldn’t find galleries that specialise in it. Now I have a media-art gallery and on a day-to-day basis experience the fact that the audience for this is global rather than local. Media-art is beginning to find an audience in Ireland but its real audience is urban anywhere.I can connect to some of that audience through a website . But what I can’t do through a website is join people in appreciating the art not when they could be anywhere from New York to Naples. Nor could many of the audience really appreciate the artwork they’d simply be viewing a 2D image.Nor can I easily introduce the artists to people who might love their work. If you want to know more about those artists, by the way, then scroll down and read the last blog post.With Ten Cubed I can do these things. I can stand with you and admire the work and together we can analyse and criticise.What I can also do is make room to showcase art that my physical gallery could not exhibit - because of its size and because of the sheer impracticality of giving over all my space to one large work. In Ten Cubed I can show any amount of art and at scale. I can also help promote and encourage artists working in a virtual medium.What Ten Cubed is giving me is a way to work like a large global gallery exhibiting great work at whatever scale I choose. I truly hope that matters to you too and that you can join me there. You will be excited by the work and by the design of the gallery - Bennet has done an exceptional job. And do read the post below - it gives you a paragraph on our first five great artists.
Website address: http://www.depoconsulting.com/index.html
Message from Denise 28/01/08
I think it would be a good idea to live stream an artist from Second Life. How do we go about doing that?
I was looking up more on Haydn Shaughnessy and there's plenty there. Attached is a bit from the following website:
http://www.depoconsulting.com/index.html
He's head of new media products at this place. The attachment gives a bit more info on Ten Cubed which is to open on Jan 31st or Feb 1st. I think he would be a very good contact, if he is willing to participate, as he seems to be heavily involved in the virtual world. He also has a blog site.
We had better finalise our contacts and write to them by tomorrow or Wed latest. We have a draft letter (which Mary sent you) that will be finalised by this evening.
Message from Jacinta 26/01/08
Are we still going to try and set up some live streaming from second life with some artists from there ? If yes, has anybody made any contact in second life yet ?
Bye,
Message from John 24/01/08
Here is a proposed wording for our seminar:
Is all art virtual imagination?
The opportunities offered by the programmed world to create an immersive aesthetic experience.
Also, another website worth checking out:
Message from Sinead 24/01/08
Another thing that might need to be considered in the overall grouping of contributors would be some variety/spread of different practices represented and also what about’ is the issue of gender an issue’? (ie. there are not many women suggested as participants…you may want to ensure some balance without this actually becoming an issue?)
Message from Sinead 24/01/08
Attached please find the recent changes and updates to the seminar proposals. You should all contact your participants this week. Allocate one person to each potential participant. John Kenny has done up a template that he can now circulate to all which can be modified as you require to suit each individual participant and group. Also modify the general text if you are sending out requests to potential sponsors (who should also be contacted this week). I understand the thesis deadlines are coming up over next few weeks and will be considerate of this but you still need to contact people to give them advance notice so this will be enough of a task and we will use next tuesday to briefly update on that specific progress. The following Tuesday 5th Feb group 4 will make their presentation and we will discuss the full group planning issues that are arising.
I am going to send the attached seminar update to your other tutors to have a look and it will allow them to propose potential contributors who might be relevant, available and interested in participating or attending and I will ask them to give us the contact details of these people. This can be used as a back-up if any of your invitees cannot decline the invitation.
Please remember to specify to those you are inviting what you would like them to participate in or contribute (also consider the option of offering them the alternative option of coming and presenting on their own work in relation to your topic…sometimes people prefer to have control of what and how they will participate).
Please remember when looking for sponsors that you can offer them advertising in relation to both whatever advertising you arrange in relation to the event and on the day and also they can be credited in the end of year catalogue and on the website.
As a back up please cc me on any general group/class e-mails and Bcc me on any e-mails you send out as invites/ sponsor requests etc.
Any time you want something put on official IADT headed notepaper, no problem just e-mail me it and I’ll print it out for you.
SEMINAR GROUPS AND TASKS
OVERALL TITLE:
The Immersive-Aesthetic: spaces of critical experience
Group 1 TITLE: Where is the line drawn? Presentation 12th Feb
1. Mary Ger Ryan
2. Bryan Keane
3. Vanessa Richardson
4. Louise Mc Cormack Parker
5. John Kenny
6. Deirdre Judge
7. Marian Richardson
8. Roisin Verdon
9. Niamh Murphy
10. Hugh O Connor
11. Ann Turpin
12. Sharon White
Proposals and discussion topics to be considered:
Game Event
Pictionary Game followed by panel discussion and exhibition based around the critical question “where do we draw the line” or “where is the line drawn?” between not-art and art. Seminar component dealing with the issues of the point of transformation between something that is just ‘stuff’ and something that has the character of ‘art’….what is the difference?...where is the difference located?...is it necessary to distinguish that ‘line’? etc….
(art/non-art, art/life, art/play, art/?)…what is the /..?.
Game event (suggestion…look up the notion of ‘bricolage’)
The idea of generating an exhibition from nothing to something in 1 day.
Wish list of suggested contributors:
Matthew Collings
Jay Joplin
Amanda Coogan
Davis Shrigley
David Godbold
Caoimhin Mac Giolla Leith
David Mc Dermott
Alice Maher
Mark Clare
Have a look at:
http://www.artnotart.com/fluxus/
http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,2077855,00.html & below
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/11/has_westwoods_reputation_gone_south.html
Group 2 TITLE: The non-physical sense of Space: Presentation 19th Feb
1. Aisling Finn
2. Sarah Whitford
3. Sebastian Rohr
4. Maebh Redmond
5. Karen Peakin
6. Peter Cabocky
7. Andrew Carroll
8. John Mernagh
9. Emma Moore
Proposals and discussion topics to be considered:
The non-physical effect on space…
Immersive Sound Spaces (and possibly Projection?)
Sound performances by Nana Cannell and Dennis Mc Nulty
Transforming the spaces through the creation of an immersive aesthetic situation produced through an engagement with the non-physical aspect of those spaces, examples being…sound, personal/public, memory/history
Creating experiences that invert the expectations of the sensory space
(Andrew to source and circulate the essay “On the spectral in Art”
Peter to source and circulate relevant readings from Henri Lefebvre and Mark Auge)
Wish list of suggested contributors:
Dennis Mc Nulty
Nina Cannell
Mick Wilson
Brian Doherty
Jonty Semer
Carsten Holler
Susan Phillipz
Have a look at:
http://www.osram.com/osram_com/About_Us/OSRAM_ART_PROJECTS/SEVEN_SCREENS/index.html
http://www.e-flux.com/shows/view/5010
http://www.extracity.org/index_rainbow_en.php
Group 3 TITLE: Transforming space through function :
Presentation 26th feb
1. Marion McManus
2. JJ Mc Grath
3. Catherine Dolan
4. Carol-Anne Moffitt
5. Alice O Toole
6. William Pontillo
7. Katie Devine
8. Catherine Hogan
9. Nina Holmes
10. Claire Hawkins
Proposals and discussion topics to be considered:
“Immersive aesthetic environments”-Transforming space through function
Suggestion that this group become overall ‘space managers’! who will engage with identifying how people use the spaces and how these uses might be disrupted and transformed through putting them to another purpose or having something different happen in them.
The experience of the event as art practice….
Interesting to note the dual meaning of function…ie ‘function’ as how something is used, its purpose, an action or role etc and ‘function’ as an event, ceremony, ritual etc.
(Suggestions…read Michel de Certeau’s practice of everyday life…esp ch. On ‘walking in the city’.
Look up the work of artists such as Tino Seghal)
Wish list of suggested contributors:
Kevin Atherton
Vera Klute
Plastique Fantastique- aka Simon O Sullivan
Have a look at:
http://www.pbs.org/art21/artists/turrell/index.html
http://www.plastiquefantastique.org/ http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/eventseducation/lateattatebritain/lateattatebritain2008january.htm
http://www.icaphila.org/exhibitions/puppetshow.php
http://deedah.org/zomaz/
Group 4 TITLE: Is all art virtual imagination?
The opportunities offered by the programmed world to create an immersive aesthetic experience.
Presentation 5th feb
1. Grainne Brady
2. Lorraine Byrne
3. Charles Henihan
4. Jacinta Hughes
5. Maire Keogh
6. Denise Kevany
7. James Kinsella
8. John Murray
9. Joe Nagel
10. Mary Quinn
11. Roma Przedpelska
Proposals and discussion topics to be considered:
Presentations/discussion around the virtual aspect in non-digital realms such as ‘reading a book’ listening to music, theatre etc…Is what we call ‘virtual’ experience in such as gaming and for example dreaming a ‘real’ aesthetic/sensory experience in the same way as actually physical sensing?...etc. Is all imaginative elements in art ‘virtual’ and ‘immersive’ or is there a different kind going on in ‘virtual worlds’?...etc.
Gallery event in Second Life with 2nd life artists giving a ‘live streaming’ tour
Wii participatory event
Virtual participants/web based discussions
Wish list of suggested contributors:
Suzanne Cote
Hayden Shaughnessy
John Gerrard
Hanok
Tim Redfern tim@eclectronics.org
Nicky Gogan nicky_gogan@yahoo.com
Jonah Brucker-Cohen jonah@coin-operated.com
Have a look at:
http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/
http://www.data.ie/
http://access-space.org/
http://www.dorkbot.org/
http://journal.fibreculture.org/issue7/issue7_bartlem.html
Task Groups: Details and plan of action to be discussed tues 5th Feb after group 4 presentation
hospitality documentation Space management sponsorship promotions AV IT ents
Mary Ger Ryan
Louise Parker
Deirdre Judge
Marian Richardson
Hugh O Connor
Ann Turpin Marion McManus
Sarah Whitford
Alice O Toole
Claire Hawkins
Jacinta Hughes Aisling Finn
Catherine Dolan
Vanessa Richardson
William Pontillo
Katie Devine
Catherine Hogan
Nina Holmes
Maire Keogh
John Murray
Joe Nagel John Kenny
Denise Kevany
James Kinsella
Mary Quinn
Carol-Anne Moffitt
Bryan Keane
Peter Cabockey
Emma Moore
Andrew Carroll
Orla Gilheany JJ McGrath
Sebastian Rohr
Karen Peakin
Roisin Verdon Roma P.
Grainne Brady Charles Henihan
BLOG: Maeve Redmond
HEALTH & SAFETY: Paula O Neill & Lorraine Byrne
PARTICIPANTS CO_ORDINATOR: Niamh Murphy
CHAPEL MANAGER + SU LIASON: Sharon White
hi group 4, from next week i want to finalise the blog with information on each grouos area of interest and invited guests. can somone e mail me some visuals, ur account in second life perhaos, some pictures of the ten cubed gallery?? Thanks, Meabh
meabhis_06@yahoo.co.uk
i really need more information and names of invited speakers or live internet speakers ASAP, thanks, meabh my e mail is above or you can post info here
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