I suppose one way to start is to begin with the title "spaces of experience". I find with titles that research into etymology is sometimes a great way to get ideas: so here goes: first 'space':
c.1300, "an area, extent, expanse, lapse of time," aphetic of O.Fr. espace, from L. spatium "room, area, distance, stretch of time," of unknown origin.
I think this 'lapse of time' is an interesting way of looking at 'space', and notice how it contradicts the 'stretch of time' definition in 'spatium'(personally I prefer the 'lapse'). Moving on to 'experience':
1377, from O.Fr. experience, from L. experientia "knowledge gained by repeated trials," from experientem (nom. experiens), prp. of experiri "to try, test," from ex- "out of" + peritus "experienced, tested." The v. (1533) first meant "to test, try;" sense of "feel, undergo" first recorded 1588.
I think that 'feel' and 'undergo' are the more interesting etymological roots here, but that's my own romantic nature talking. Also interesting is the phrase 'numinous experience'(if interested, look it up yourself - it's to do with spiritual matters).
I also think that the word 'empirical' is relevent here:
1569, from L. empiricus, from Gk. empeirikos "experienced," from empeiria "experience," from empeiros "skilled," from en- "in" + peira "trial, experiment." Originally a school of ancient physicians who based their practice on experience rather than theory.
Anyone who is interested in these investigations of the meaning of 'experience' and 'empiricism' could look at the Enlightenment philosopher Locke, who talks about two types of empirical knowledge. Lastly, we have the word 'phenomenology' which I am sure most know already from our own studies in art.
Well that's my tu'penny worth for the moment. Merry Christmas!
It's interesting to think how the word 'space' is used so much in art discourse(there is also the word "place", which is a term more affiliated with postmodernist thought, as it suggests a context or locality). I think that the word 'space' is more to do with modernism, in that it has nothing to do with a specific 'place'. Modernism, seen from a Rosenbergian perspective,is also subversive to history and chronology, and so those that see it from this point of view see the world as a no-place, at no-time.
The word 'experiece', then, 'knowledge gained by repeated trials' (from my last post), suggests the very tradition and wisdom of history that postmodernism harked back to.
If we are creating 'spaces of experiece', maybe we can combine space and experience in this way- as a combination of the qualities of modernist and postmodernist thinking, to come up with a synthesis of both that is superior to either. Maybe some of the questions we could ask are: How can no-time have experience? When is tradition new or modern? Where is wisdom made an infant or born anew?
mmm,i haven't really thought this idea out very well, but this is a virtual experience i stumbled across just recently. http://www.thinkartificial.org/uncategorized/the-virtual-haircut-clip/ it takes you on quite a trip!?...thought it'd be interesting to do a set up along the same lines.but how to go about it is another matter entirely.whether it comes of anything or not, have a go, its pretty cool.
asides that, i had this idea about sticking a life model in a room, maybe on a pedastel for the day.naked to the max.maybe with the whole forum idea, (with people posting their opinions and stuff on the event to a virtual site like we talked about before we broke up) being projected onto the back wall. maybe the blog could pose a question or something, like asking people for their ideas on life modeling and shit..and maybe to make it a more interactive process for the people who come into the space, they could write their answer to the same question on the life model.so it kind of becomes an art piece and an experience and a fleshy forum..eh..jeepers,nope,dunno where i'm going with this one either.i'd like some nakedness though.yawn..just whacking them out!?
The Idea for our group is exterior vs interior space and playing with thtese notions.(outdoor and indoor spaces in the college) -Create a process art piece throughout the day (seb-chess piece idea, sarah-artists work on a piece of art together producing a piece of art at the end of the day) -reintroducing fun to art (Carsten Holler-Test Site) -Projection of Youtube pieces in courtyard -Film/music-new scores of music to iconic film audience reactions -Creating a sound experiece that feels like its real(immersive sound experiece)-The Virtual Haircut-high quality recording of hair being cut that creats this kind of experience Field recordings-prosposing to record a walk from o connell street church and down o connell street these noises-art becomming a vital function of society, sociabilty, creating community around the focus of art.(Nicolas Bourriaud-relational aesthetics)
found this cool thing made by 'Jem Finer' is a 1,000 year long seamless recombination of a recording of Tibetan prayer bowls, really weird to listen to http://longplayer.org/lp_new_site/new_listening_posts/stream.html
not going to say where i got this from but heres some names of sound artists * Cox, Christoph, 2003. "Return to Form: Christoph Cox on Neo-modernist Sound Art—Sound—Column." Artforum (November): [pages]. [1] * Cox, Christoph and Daniel Warner, eds. 2004. Audio Culture. New York: Continuum. ISBN 978-0826416155. * de la Motte, Helga, Bernhard Leitner, and Bernd Schulz, eds. 2003. Resonances. [Place]: [Publisher]. ISBN 3-933257-86-7. * Drobnick, Jim, ed. 2004. Aural Cultures. [Place]: [Publisher] ISBN 0-920397-80-8. * Kahn, Douglas. 2001. Noise, Water, Meat: A History of Sound in the Arts. Cambridge: MIT Press. ISBN 0262611724 * LaBelle, Brandon. 2006. Background Noise: Perspectives on Sound Art New York: Continuum International. ISBN 0826418449 (cloth) ISBN 0826418457 (pbk) * Lander, Dan, and Micah Lexier, eds. 1990. Sound by Artists. Toronto: Art Metropole/Walter Phillips Gallery. * Licht, Alan. 2007. Sound Art: Beyond Music, Between Categories New York: Rizzoli. * Lucier, Alvin and Douglas Simon. 1980. Chambers. Middletown, Connecticut: Wesleyan University Press. ISBN 0819550426. * Oliveros, Pauline. 1984. Software for People. Baltimore: Smith Publications. ISBN 0914162594 (cloth) ISBN 0914162608 (pbk) * Paik, Nam June. 1963. "Post Music Manifesto," Videa N Videology. Syracuse, New York: Everson Museum of Art. * Peer, René van. 1993. Interviews with Sound Artists. Eindhoven: Het Apollohuis. * Schafer, R. Murray. 1977. The Soundscape. Rochester, Vermont: Destiny Books. ISBN 0892814551 * Toop, David. 2004. Haunted Weather: Music, Silence, and Memory. London: Serpent's Tail.
a link to an essay called "me you and everyone we know; the aesthetics of joining in", which is worthwhile reading http://www.ias.uwa.edu.au/the_new_critic/ archives/issue_2/me_and_you_and_everyone_ we_know_the_aesthetics_of_joining_in__nick _tapper
Howyiz, we'll need to gather a good few pairs of binocular for the footie so if anyone has a pair that we can use can you please let us know (group 3)via college or blog or e-mail me. Bill has mastered a way of attaching them to secure head piece so they'll be safe and well looked after. We may need them a few days before the event so we'd appreciate if you can let us know asap to save us from wasting budget money on buying extra pairs. Thank you
check out the following youtube videos with regards to sound-imges:
"Reflections on Water" by Debussy as part of "Images" part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWDTOpJjVA
There are many other movements of the set of Debussy's compositions called "Images", and you can find links to the others from this first part on youtube.
Dear documentation team! I think i may have enlisted the film students to help with documentation of the day. They will get back to me before Thursday and will attend the meeting with us to figure out exactly what type of shots we need and what and where. I also sent an email to them listing everything for the day. i will keep you all posted. -claire
TIMETABLE OF SPACES OF EXPERIENCE SEMINAR WEDNESDAY 12th MARCH
2:00pm Launch Event 2:20pm Seminar Introduction 2:30pm Group 1: Pictionary Game Event -15 minute break 3:45pm Group 4: Second Life Live Internet Discussion 4:45pm Group 3: Binocular Football 5:15pm Group 2: Sound Conversation Sound Discussion -15 minute break 6:30pm Discussion with all invited speakers 7:30 Final Event-Exhibition
Other events include durational performance and sound installation.
17 comments:
comment 2
I suppose one way to start is to begin with the title "spaces of experience". I find with titles that research into etymology is sometimes a great way to get ideas: so here goes: first 'space':
c.1300, "an area, extent, expanse, lapse of time," aphetic of O.Fr. espace, from L. spatium "room, area, distance, stretch of time," of unknown origin.
I think this 'lapse of time' is an interesting way of looking at 'space', and notice how it contradicts the 'stretch of time' definition in 'spatium'(personally I prefer the 'lapse'). Moving on to 'experience':
1377, from O.Fr. experience, from L. experientia "knowledge gained by repeated trials," from experientem (nom. experiens), prp. of experiri "to try, test," from ex- "out of" + peritus "experienced, tested." The v. (1533) first meant "to test, try;" sense of "feel, undergo" first recorded 1588.
I think that 'feel' and 'undergo' are the more interesting etymological roots here, but that's my own romantic nature talking. Also interesting is the phrase 'numinous experience'(if interested, look it up yourself - it's to do with spiritual matters).
I also think that the word 'empirical' is relevent here:
1569, from L. empiricus, from Gk. empeirikos "experienced," from empeiria "experience," from empeiros "skilled," from en- "in" + peira "trial, experiment." Originally a school of ancient physicians who based their practice on experience rather than theory.
Anyone who is interested in these investigations of the meaning of 'experience' and 'empiricism' could look at the Enlightenment philosopher Locke, who talks about two types of empirical knowledge. Lastly, we have the word 'phenomenology' which I am sure most know already from our own studies in art.
Well that's my tu'penny worth for the moment. Merry Christmas!
It's interesting to think how the word 'space' is used so much in art discourse(there is also the word "place", which is a term more affiliated with postmodernist thought, as it suggests a context or locality). I think that the word 'space' is more to do with modernism, in that it has nothing to do with a specific 'place'. Modernism, seen from a Rosenbergian perspective,is also subversive to history and chronology, and so those that see it from this point of view see the world as a no-place, at no-time.
The word 'experiece', then, 'knowledge gained by repeated trials' (from my last post), suggests the very tradition and wisdom of history that postmodernism harked back to.
If we are creating 'spaces of experiece', maybe we can combine space and experience in this way- as a combination of the qualities of modernist and postmodernist thinking, to come up with a synthesis of both that is superior to either. Maybe some of the questions we could ask are: How can no-time have experience? When is tradition new or modern? Where is wisdom made an infant or born anew?
mmm,i haven't really thought this idea out very well, but this is a virtual experience i stumbled across just recently.
http://www.thinkartificial.org/uncategorized/the-virtual-haircut-clip/
it takes you on quite a trip!?...thought it'd be interesting to do a set up along the same lines.but how to go about it is another matter entirely.whether it comes of anything or not, have a go, its pretty cool.
asides that, i had this idea about sticking a life model in a room, maybe on a pedastel for the day.naked to the max.maybe with the whole forum idea, (with people posting their opinions and stuff on the event to a virtual site like we talked about before we broke up) being projected onto the back wall. maybe the blog could pose a question or something, like asking people for their ideas on life modeling and shit..and maybe to make it a more interactive process for the people who come into the space, they could write their answer to the same question on the life model.so it kind of becomes an art piece and an experience and a fleshy forum..eh..jeepers,nope,dunno where i'm going with this one either.i'd like some nakedness though.yawn..just whacking them out!?
The Idea for our group is exterior vs interior space and playing with thtese notions.(outdoor and indoor spaces in the college)
-Create a process art piece throughout the day (seb-chess piece idea, sarah-artists work on a piece of art together producing a piece of art at the end of the day)
-reintroducing fun to art (Carsten Holler-Test Site)
-Projection of Youtube pieces in courtyard
-Film/music-new scores of music to iconic film audience reactions
-Creating a sound experiece that feels like its real(immersive sound experiece)-The Virtual Haircut-high quality recording of hair being cut that creats this kind of experience
Field recordings-prosposing to record a walk from o connell street church and down o connell street these noises-art becomming a vital function of society, sociabilty, creating community around the focus of art.(Nicolas Bourriaud-relational aesthetics)
http://www.dennismcnultyart.com/
http://ncad.learnonline.ie/user/view.php?id=3&course=1
http://www.martincreed.com/
http://www.ias.uwa.edu.au/the_new_critic/archives/issue_2/me_and_you_and_everyone_we_know_the_aesthetics_of_joining_in__nick_tapper
http://typebot.sittingbot.net/
http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/carstenholler/
i posted the pictures from the first discussion day on http:/seb-group2discussionday.blogspot.com/
an experience to avoid repeating
found this cool thing made by 'Jem Finer' is a 1,000 year long seamless recombination of a recording of Tibetan prayer bowls, really weird to listen to http://longplayer.org/lp_new_site/new_listening_posts/stream.html
not going to say where i got this from but heres some names of sound artists
* Cox, Christoph, 2003. "Return to Form: Christoph Cox on Neo-modernist Sound Art—Sound—Column." Artforum (November): [pages]. [1]
* Cox, Christoph and Daniel Warner, eds. 2004. Audio Culture. New York: Continuum. ISBN 978-0826416155.
* de la Motte, Helga, Bernhard Leitner, and Bernd Schulz, eds. 2003. Resonances. [Place]: [Publisher]. ISBN 3-933257-86-7.
* Drobnick, Jim, ed. 2004. Aural Cultures. [Place]: [Publisher] ISBN 0-920397-80-8.
* Kahn, Douglas. 2001. Noise, Water, Meat: A History of Sound in the Arts. Cambridge: MIT Press. ISBN 0262611724
* LaBelle, Brandon. 2006. Background Noise: Perspectives on Sound Art New York: Continuum International. ISBN 0826418449 (cloth) ISBN 0826418457 (pbk)
* Lander, Dan, and Micah Lexier, eds. 1990. Sound by Artists. Toronto: Art Metropole/Walter Phillips Gallery.
* Licht, Alan. 2007. Sound Art: Beyond Music, Between Categories New York: Rizzoli.
* Lucier, Alvin and Douglas Simon. 1980. Chambers. Middletown, Connecticut: Wesleyan University Press. ISBN 0819550426.
* Oliveros, Pauline. 1984. Software for People. Baltimore: Smith Publications. ISBN 0914162594 (cloth) ISBN 0914162608 (pbk)
* Paik, Nam June. 1963. "Post Music Manifesto," Videa N Videology. Syracuse, New York: Everson Museum of Art.
* Peer, René van. 1993. Interviews with Sound Artists. Eindhoven: Het Apollohuis.
* Schafer, R. Murray. 1977. The Soundscape. Rochester, Vermont: Destiny Books. ISBN 0892814551
* Toop, David. 2004. Haunted Weather: Music, Silence, and Memory. London: Serpent's Tail.
a link to an essay called "me you and everyone we know; the aesthetics of joining in", which is worthwhile reading
http://www.ias.uwa.edu.au/the_new_critic/
archives/issue_2/me_and_you_and_everyone_
we_know_the_aesthetics_of_joining_in__nick
_tapper
nina canell unable to participate :(
For the attention of Group 1.
I found a site with '101 Art Ideas You Can Do Youurself'. Maybe you can find it useful for the game.
http://www.e-flux.com/projects/pruitt/index.php3
Howyiz,
we'll need to gather a good few pairs of binocular for the footie so if anyone has a pair that we can use can you please let us know (group 3)via college or blog or e-mail me. Bill has mastered a way of attaching them to secure head piece so they'll be safe and well looked after. We may need them a few days before the event so we'd appreciate if you can let us know asap to save us from wasting budget money on buying extra pairs.
Thank you
check out the following youtube videos with regards to sound-imges:
"Reflections on Water" by Debussy as part of "Images" part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWDTOpJjVA
There are many other movements of the set of Debussy's compositions called "Images", and you can find links to the others from this first part on youtube.
also, with regard to sound images check out these websites:
art-mind.org/review/spip.php?article14
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/November2007/01/c2838.html
rixc.lv/06/en/txt52.html
www.digiarts.org.tw/ShowArtwork.aspx?lang=en&CA_GROUP=W1&CW_NO=271
Here is another "dramatically":) useful link with regards to sound images. I think this one is particularly interesting. But that's just me.
www.artbeyondsight.org/handbook/acs-sounddrama.shtml
Dear documentation team!
I think i may have enlisted the film students to help with documentation of the day. They will get back to me before Thursday and will attend the meeting with us to figure out exactly what type of shots we need and what and where. I also sent an email to them listing everything for the day. i will keep you all posted.
-claire
Post a Comment